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Posterior Analytics, Book II, Chapter 19 Part 2 |
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Sunday 18th of April 2004. 1st.: Well, if we have them, it is absurd;
for it results that we have pieces of knowledge
more precise than demonstration and yet this
escapes notice. But if we get them without
having them earlier, how might we become
familiar with them and learn them from no
pre-existing knowledge? For that is impossible,
as we said in the case of demonstration too.
It is evidently impossible, then, both for
us to have them and for them to come about
in us when we are ignorant and have no such
state at all. Necessarily, therefore, we
have some capacity, but do not have one of
a type which will be more valuable than these
in respect of precision.
2nd.: It is absurd that we possess such states;
for then we should possess pieces of knowledge
more exact than demonstration without its
being noticed. But if we get them without
possessing them earlier, how could we come
to acquire knowledge and to learn except
from pre-existing knowledge? This is impossible,
as I said in connection with demonstration.
It is clear, then, both that we cannot possess
these states and also that they cannot come
about in us when we are ignorant and possess
no state at all. We must therefore possess
some sort of capacity—but not one which will
be more valuable than these states in respect
to exactness.
GCM: Innate knowledge is rejected: (Barnes’
commentary) “Aristotle would doubtless have
adopted Locke’s answer to this reaction;
it reduces innatism to the uncontroversial
hypothesis that human infant have certain
innate cognitive capacities the exercise
of which waits upon experience.” There are
a variety of “states” of knowledge. Capacity
is one, experience is another. Neither one
“will be more valuable than these states
in respect to exactness.” There is no hierarchy
of knowledge, no rising from experience to
Ideas. There is no special “state” of knowledge
that provides more important information
than another.
1st.: And this evidently belongs to all animals;
for they have a connate discriminatory capacity,
which is called perception. And if perception
is present in them, in some animals retention
of the percept comes about, but in others
it does not come about. Now for those in
which it does not come about, there is no
knowledge outside perceiving (either none
at all, or none with regard to that of which
there is no retention); [100a1] but for some
perceivers, it is possible to grasp it in
their minds. And when many such things come
about, then a difference comes about, so
that some come to have an account from the
retention of such things, and others do not.
2nd.: And this is clearly true of all animals:
they have a connate discriminatory capacity,
which is called perception. Given that perception
is present in them, in some animals the percepts
are retained and in others they are not.
If they are not, then the animal has no knowledge
when it is not perceiving (either in general
or with regard to items which are not retained).
But some can still hold the percepts in their
soul after perceiving them. When this occurs
often, there is then a further difference:
some animals come to have an account based
on the retention of these items, and others
do not.
GCM: What becomes apparent here but is usually
missed is Aristotle’s growing emphasis on
perception as the fundamental “state” of
knowledge and not words, not “propositions”
at all. The discriminatory capacity is perception
itself and we know this because Aristotle
is talking about animals, all kinds of animals.
(Barnes’ commentary) “Aristotle frequently
says that perception krinei or is kritikos
(references given). Krinein may mean either
“judge” or “discriminate”, and to say that
perception is kritike is to say either that
perception makes judgments or that it can
discriminate.” He is talking about percepts.
And the ONLY fundamental distinction he will
make among animals is whether they remember
and compare (an “account”, i. e., “an account
from the retention”, “an account based on
the retention”) their percepts or not, so
that his discussion of mind imperceptibly
goes from animal to human being because human
being is just an animal also.
1st.: So from perception there comes memory,
as we call it, and from memory (when it occurs
often in connection with the same thing),
experience; for memories that are many in
number form a single experience. And from
experience, or from the whole universal that
has come to rest in the soul (the one apart
from the many, whatever is one and the same
in all those things), there comes a principle
of skill and of understanding--of skill if
it deals with how things come about, of understanding
if it deals with what is the case.
2nd.: Thus from perception there comes memory,
as we call it, and from memory (when it occurs
often in connection with the same item) experience;
for memories which are many in number form
a single experience. And from experience,
or from all the universal which has come
to rest in the soul (the one apart from the
many, i. e., whatever is one and the same
in all these items), there comes a principle
of skill or understanding—of skill if it
deals with how things come about, of understanding
if it deals with how things are.
GCM: “From perception comes memory, and from
memory experience.” No word, no propositions
yet. Experience is a group of memories of
perception. No words yet. The universal “that
comes to rest in the soul” is the perception
of “whatever is one and the same in all these
items”. “Skill” and “understanding, then,
are here purely perceptual. With skill this
is easy to see. A dog can learn a skill and
therefore must retain some perceptual form
in its mind. (Barnes’ commentary) “What ‘remains’
is properly not a percept or sense impression
but a ‘phantasm’ or mental image, which is
as it were the trace or imprint of a percept,
and memory requires in addition to this retention
the ability to resurrect these imprints (references
given).
1st.: Thus the states neither belong in us
in a determinate form, nor come about from
other states that are more cognitive; but
they come about from perception--as in a
battle when a rout occurs, if one man makes
a stand another does and then another, until
a position of strength is reached. And the
soul is such as to be capable of undergoing
this.
2nd.: Thus the states in question neither
inhere in us in a determinate form nor come
about from other states which are more cognitive;
rather, they come about from perception—as
in a battle, when a rout has occurred, first
one man makes a stand, then another does,
and then another, until a position of strength
is reached. And the soul is such as to be
capable of undergoing this.
GCM: All the ‘states” come about from perception.
Remember hexis is a having, a grasping, a
perceived physical act. And the perceptual
universal arises from perceptions joining
together in the ‘battle’ of sensation to
form a universal of experience, not words.
1st.: What we have just said but not said
clearly, let us say again: when one of the
undifferentiated things makes a stand, there
is a primitive universal in the mind (for
though one perceives [100b1] the particular,
perception is of the universal--e. g. of
man but not of Callias the man); again a
stand is made in these, until what has no
parts and is universal stands-e. g. such-and-such
an animal stands, until animal does, and
in this a stand is made in the same way.
Thus it is clear that it is necessary for
us to become familiar with the primitives
by induction; for perception too instils
the universal in this way.
2nd.: Let us say again what we have just
said but not clearly. When one of the undifferentiated
items makes a stand, there is a primitive
universal in the soul; for although you perceive
particulars, perception is of universals,--e.
g. of man, not Callias the man. Next, a stand
is made among these items, until something
partless and universal makes a stand, until
animal does; and with animal a stand is made
in the same way. Thus it is plain we must
get to know the primitives by induction;
for this is the way in which perception instills
universals.
GCM: “When one undifferentiated thing takes
a stand, there is a primitive universal in
the mind.” You have one unique sense impression,
but the mind automatically puts it in a frame
work whereby it can be compared to other
sense impressions. This is “capacity”. The
actual, literal this very moment act of perceiving
only sees Callias but Callias is put into
the framework, an “account” that, upon accumulating
like sense impressions produce the percept
man. No words yet. (Barnes’ commentary) “We
perceive things as AS.” his is much like
Kant’s “object X”, the mere framework to
individuate something, but in ‘individuating’
it, makes it a ‘type, a ‘kind’, with nothing
yet to compare it to. Husserl and Heidegger
would call this “projection” and thereby
tie it to temporality, an act done in time
for a future purpose. “Partlessness” here
comes into view, and thereby the whole discussion
of identity per se and the necessary “self”
to support an identity in existence like
God continuously supports his created creature
man. But Aristotle inconveniently brings
us back to being an animal again, “until
animal does”, “and with animal a stand is
made” just like the lonely figures in battle
that decide to stand and hold the line against
the enemy! God is not necessary at all here.
The animal needs no support. The animal makes
a decision like the soldiers to make a “stand”.
“Thus it is plain we must get to know the
primitives by induction; for this is the
way in which perception instills universals.”
No words yet.
1st.: Since of the intellectual states by
which we grasp truth some are always true
and some admit falsehood (e. g. opinion and
reasoning--whereas understanding and comprehension
are always true), and no kind other than
comprehension is more precise than understanding,
and the principles of demonstrations are
more familiar, and all understanding involves
an account--there will not be understanding
of the principles; and since it is not possible
for anything to be truer than understanding,
except comprehension, there will be comprehension
of the principles--both if we inquire from
these facts and because demonstration is
not a principle of demonstration so that
understanding is not a principle of understanding
either--so if we have no other true kind
apart from understanding, comprehension will
be the principle of understanding. And the
principle will be of the principle, and understanding
as a whole will be similarly related to the
whole object.
2nd.: Of the intellectual states by which
we grasp truth, some are always true and
some admit falsehood (e. g. opinion and calculation
do—whereas understanding and comprehension
are always true); and no kind apart from
comprehension is more exact than understanding.
Again, the principles of demonstrations are
more familiar, and all understanding involves
an account. Hence there will not be understanding
of the principles; and since nothing apart
from comprehension can be truer than understanding,
there will be comprehension of the principles.
This emerges both from our present inquiry
and also because, just as demonstration is
not a principle of demonstration, so understanding
is not a principle of understanding. Thus
if we have no other true kind apart from
understanding, comprehension will be the
principle of understanding. And the principle
will relate to the principle as understanding
as a whole is related to its object as a
whole.
GCM: “Understanding involves an account [therefore] there will not be understanding of the principles.” However, “there will be comprehension of the principles.” Neither “understanding” nor “comprehension” can be a principle. This means they cannot be comprehended by words but are the very acts of perception, of sensation just as in any animal. (Barnes’ commentary) “”Intuited truths are just ‘seen’ to be true.” “Principle will relate to principle” as simply relation. They are “always true” as they are from “understanding and comprehension”, not “opinion and reasoning”. They are from sense impressions and can only be changed by sense impressions. They are the axioms. They are not something that can be logically chosen or be the result of a process of reasoning because they are the reason why any process of reasoning gets started in the first place. They are the reason you reason, and it cannot be the other way around. “Understanding as a whole is related to its object as a whole. Heidegger would call this “world”, that which precedes “self” and “God” in order of cognition as explained in the Hemming letters. I can see no immediate reason Hume would object to this, and may have a corresponding concept I have missed, since this “world” is the “whole” of what is received, “given”: It is the whole sensual perception of what one has received and remembered through the senses and the sensual sounds of others linked to interpretation, i. e., pointing to a cat: “This is a cat”, etc., and linked in turn to tone, to body language, and to punishment, all “sensual” communication. No abstract words yet. Barnes questions the possibility of a “ ‘perfect’ induction” but that is already in place, perfect, “always already” all inclusive, boundry-less perception of which I have written several times before. You cannot perceive the unperceived just as you cannot know what you do not know. All that is known is contained “whole” within what you have perceived. And what you have perceived can sensually have nothing to do with what I have perceived. Therefore propositions, abstractions, words may be useful but are in themselves inherently meaningless outside the context of personal experience. |
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